Sure, the presidential campaign is over for now but the polls haven't gone away, particularly the kind that Nate Silver at FiveThirtyEight identifies as a kind of push poll through skewed questions.
Numbers Guy faults it too. Zogby’s Misleading Poll of Obama Voters
During a campaign, pollsters can build credibility by forecasting election results accurately. Afterward, they can build revenue by using that credibility to attract private clients. These private surveys often have an agenda, and their numbers can’t be tested against an objective standard, such as votes. Such surveys can test pollsters’ standards of conduct.
Zogby International recently conducted a survey for a critic of president-elect Barack Obama and then, together with the sponsor, interpreted the numbers from the survey in a misleading fashion.
Then there was this little harmless-sounding poll the AP reported on Saturday, showing us once again how ignorant Americans are about their own political system. I happen to agree with that assessment, so was reading through the story about how we're all going to hell in a handbasket but found some strange writing. First, the story cited multiple problems with answers but didn't give the questions. Then suddenly, it dropped in this loaded gem:
The question that received the fewest correct responses, just 16 percent, tested respondents' basic understanding of economic principles, asking why "free markets typically secure more economic prosperity than government's centralized planning?"
Doesn't the wording strike you as odd? So I looked up the outfit that ran the poll, a group called the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, and noticed the names of several conservatives rotating across the top of the page, including Whittaker Chambers, William Buckley and others.
The group, of course, is entitled to push any idea that it wants. But along with the loaded attempt of the Obama poll, cited above, makes me, once again, say polls should be reported extremely carefully and the source--and its motivation--spelled out.
And on a side note, is it me or is it especially tacky for a cable movie channel to be showing that fantasy film, "JFK" today?
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Saturday, November 22, 2008
Watch Those Polls
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Thursday, May 15, 2008
Quake Magnitudes
The Numbers Guy examines matters of quake magnitude and population in relation to the earthquake in China, saying this:
A U.S. seismologist tasked with estimating the magnitude of Monday’s earthquake in southwestern China says that number is not nearly as important as population figures. In this case, the quake’s location in the heavily populated Sichuan province, not far from the capital Chengdu, is likely to have a great influence on the death toll.
One of the cable stations was trying to emphasize the wide spread of the earthquake and tried to merge a map of the U.S. with names of Chinese cities superimposed on the map, ending up showing Shanghai as roughly in Kentucky. (I don't think that's right, actually--I'd put Shanghai on a US map at about Maryland, but I'll have to look it up. This caught my attention primarily because Teenager is from Anhui province, a bit west of Shanghai.) The problem is that the geographical spread of the earthquake is far less important, except as a conversation piece, than the violence on the cities most affected by the quake.
Fans of the Numbers Guy added comments about the value of the Richter scale vs. other kinds of measurements.
I see many of today's stories have shifted to fears about damage to dams. I ran across a story Tuesday, though don't recall where, that noted that the humongous Three Gorges dam, holding back water that could flood 15 million people, is built to withstand a quake of 7.0 magnitude, while this week's quake hit 7.9. That's pretty scary.
A U.S. seismologist tasked with estimating the magnitude of Monday’s earthquake in southwestern China says that number is not nearly as important as population figures. In this case, the quake’s location in the heavily populated Sichuan province, not far from the capital Chengdu, is likely to have a great influence on the death toll.
One of the cable stations was trying to emphasize the wide spread of the earthquake and tried to merge a map of the U.S. with names of Chinese cities superimposed on the map, ending up showing Shanghai as roughly in Kentucky. (I don't think that's right, actually--I'd put Shanghai on a US map at about Maryland, but I'll have to look it up. This caught my attention primarily because Teenager is from Anhui province, a bit west of Shanghai.) The problem is that the geographical spread of the earthquake is far less important, except as a conversation piece, than the violence on the cities most affected by the quake.
Fans of the Numbers Guy added comments about the value of the Richter scale vs. other kinds of measurements.
I see many of today's stories have shifted to fears about damage to dams. I ran across a story Tuesday, though don't recall where, that noted that the humongous Three Gorges dam, holding back water that could flood 15 million people, is built to withstand a quake of 7.0 magnitude, while this week's quake hit 7.9. That's pretty scary.
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