Well, once again, I've had to miss the ACES conference, and once again, miss it deeply and regret that my need to piece together a living at the moment is interfering with attending the conference. I was hoping to catch up with several of the scholarship winners, especially Emily Ingram from the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, who I know over the phone from the ABC's On Campus program.
When the scholarship selection team submitted its recommendations to the Education Committee for final approval, it was amusing to discover that most of the winners was known to at least one of us, and we would weigh in with a comment to the effect that, yes, hooray, they all look great, but so-and-so is especially deserving. In my case, that is Emily, though to repeat, they ALL look terrific.
As a print major and a copy editor, she runs the UNL On Campus bureau of broadcast students, a really remarkable arrangement that attests to her leadership and her skills across several platforms. It says a lot about her future in the journalism world, whatever it becomes in the near and distant future.
So congrats to all. Should I be fully employed next year, I will turn up at ACES, I swear.
And, not incidentally, that ACES is able to attract more than 300 participants in such doom and gloom time is nothing short of miraculous.
Congratulations to Chris and the ACES team, again.
Showing posts with label ACES. Show all posts
Showing posts with label ACES. Show all posts
Thursday, April 15, 2010
Congrats to ACES Scholarship Winners
Thursday, January 21, 2010
Fix It
I keep reading this figure, that a Washington Post story once got "12 touches" and that sounds absurd and it seems to get thrown around as an excuse to do dumb things.
But who are the 12? If it's a complex story that has gone back from assigning editor to assistant managing editor, back to reporter, back to assigning desk, then graphics, layout and then various people on the copy desk, well, that's one thing. But I don't think that's an argument for eliminating copy desks or chiefs, as the Post is busy doing these days, but rather for fixing the system. Or maybe the story was a piece of garbage that merited lots of touches in an attempt to salvage it. We've all seen those stories, haven't we?
I once worked on a 13-part series that was two years in the making that had gone round and round through various editors. It was literally in proof stage on a Friday night, for Sunday edition use, when the executive editor decided it needed a major overhaul and started doing things like pulling the second sidebar for day 3 into the mainbar for day 8 and so on and so on. It was a nightmare. The overtime made me rich. But that is the fault of someone other than the copy desk.
Regardless, Tim McGuire, who has been a supporter of both the American Copy Editors Society and the team concept, makes some important points here. I just don't know if anyone with a finger on the budget will listen.
Given the destruction of newspapers and the many new models for delivery of news, there is room for a redeployment of people's skills, certainly. Smart editors would figure out a way to identify and then best use those skills since people aren't interchangeable parts.
But the wholesale destruction of quality control is absolutely idiotic. Copy editors have been in the forefront of technological changes for as long as I've been in the news business. It is insanity to disregard those skills and ability to adapt by getting rid of them. Over the years, I have periodically encountered senior editors who professed shock at suddenly discovering how rough their reporters' copy is. I think we can see some of what happens without editing when we look at websites where editing is a secondary consideration, at best.
Really, if you don't care about the quality issue, what are you doing in the business? Go do something else. I'm tired of the woe-is-me-I-have-to-cut-my-staff-again attitude. Do something to maintain quality or get the hell out because your product is pretty much so thoroughly devalued that no one wants it.
But who are the 12? If it's a complex story that has gone back from assigning editor to assistant managing editor, back to reporter, back to assigning desk, then graphics, layout and then various people on the copy desk, well, that's one thing. But I don't think that's an argument for eliminating copy desks or chiefs, as the Post is busy doing these days, but rather for fixing the system. Or maybe the story was a piece of garbage that merited lots of touches in an attempt to salvage it. We've all seen those stories, haven't we?
I once worked on a 13-part series that was two years in the making that had gone round and round through various editors. It was literally in proof stage on a Friday night, for Sunday edition use, when the executive editor decided it needed a major overhaul and started doing things like pulling the second sidebar for day 3 into the mainbar for day 8 and so on and so on. It was a nightmare. The overtime made me rich. But that is the fault of someone other than the copy desk.
Regardless, Tim McGuire, who has been a supporter of both the American Copy Editors Society and the team concept, makes some important points here. I just don't know if anyone with a finger on the budget will listen.
Given the destruction of newspapers and the many new models for delivery of news, there is room for a redeployment of people's skills, certainly. Smart editors would figure out a way to identify and then best use those skills since people aren't interchangeable parts.
But the wholesale destruction of quality control is absolutely idiotic. Copy editors have been in the forefront of technological changes for as long as I've been in the news business. It is insanity to disregard those skills and ability to adapt by getting rid of them. Over the years, I have periodically encountered senior editors who professed shock at suddenly discovering how rough their reporters' copy is. I think we can see some of what happens without editing when we look at websites where editing is a secondary consideration, at best.
Really, if you don't care about the quality issue, what are you doing in the business? Go do something else. I'm tired of the woe-is-me-I-have-to-cut-my-staff-again attitude. Do something to maintain quality or get the hell out because your product is pretty much so thoroughly devalued that no one wants it.
Labels:
ACES,
copy editors,
Tim McGuire,
Washington Post
Wednesday, January 6, 2010
Ideas on the March
John McIntyre opened his blog to Michael Bullwinkle, a student who has put some careful thought into the state of copy editing and those who practice the craft. He sees, and encourages other to see, opportunities that might become available to copy editors as standard newspaper and magazine jobs disappear.
Here's part of what he wrote:
I commend Michael for thinking about it and finding the perfect example in a TED talk, and John for opening his blog to a smart young guest writer.
Beyond that, here's what I think.
Several months ago, I floated a similar idea I was calling an editing combine that would offer its services to newspapers or other publications. Through ACES and other connections, several of us know editors in every time zone and imaginable work schedule. And there's no shortage of unemployed or under-employed highly skilled people available. The combine would take assignments, helping mostly smaller publications, by providing quality editing at a rather low cost because people would be freelancers and not staff. Someone carried the idea to AEJMC for discussion but we heard nothing further. Those who were talking about it had deep reservations about several aspects, though were not put off by the daunting task of organizing such an operation because, after all, we'd launched ACES with little more than sheer determination. Eventually, we parked the idea for further thought and the reality of having to make a living intruded.
But we haven't completey given up, though serious obstacles come to mind:
Those are the primary negatives I see to such an editing combine. I don't think that such an organization is out of the question but I'm not sure it would be so different from companies that already exist to offer freelance editing. The major differences would be, I suppose, that it would be populated primarily by journalists, and be available for daily, rather than more long term, assignments.
There are individual freelance jobs out there and, to repeat myself, I like the idea of engaging a web site and offering services. Too many, however, take the publish-first approach and, in fact, pride themselves in speed over accuracy, quite literally telling writers to skip the editing and legal checks in favor of posting. But perhaps we could focus on the sites that are a bit more thoughtful.
In recent weeks, I've been suggesting to people that should more newspapers continue to fold, and more editors be thrown out of work, that perhaps we could at least apply our values to the web. I simply do not believe that everything we learned to do in our careers will prove to be of no value in the coming years. It appears that we will have to find ways to put them to work, to preserve and use what we know.
To get rather hyperbolic, I find editors facing a kind of Dark Ages. In "How the Irish Saved Civilization," the Irish monks are credited with saving classical works from marauding Germanic tribes, transcribing and preserving the works for later generations. We, too, can put our values and knowledge to work, rather than just fading away, if we figure out the right approach, jettison the mourning for the way things used to be, and step forward with new ideas. There is, after all, no newspaper copy editor I know whose job hasn't undergone changes thanks to new technology, the arrival of the internet and new publication demands, so it's not as if we haven't experienced change before.
So, congratulations, Michael, for starting the conversation again. Anyone else?
Here's part of what he wrote:
What I wonder is if perhaps one could take the basic model of these overseas copy-editing establishments and set up a similar little agency of native-speaking editors in the United States. To start, all you would need is a loosely connected group of work-at-home freelancers who had a common website and e-mail and divided up the editing accordingly. Billing could be done based on number of pages edited or specific contracts depending on customers’ needs.
I commend Michael for thinking about it and finding the perfect example in a TED talk, and John for opening his blog to a smart young guest writer.
Beyond that, here's what I think.
Several months ago, I floated a similar idea I was calling an editing combine that would offer its services to newspapers or other publications. Through ACES and other connections, several of us know editors in every time zone and imaginable work schedule. And there's no shortage of unemployed or under-employed highly skilled people available. The combine would take assignments, helping mostly smaller publications, by providing quality editing at a rather low cost because people would be freelancers and not staff. Someone carried the idea to AEJMC for discussion but we heard nothing further. Those who were talking about it had deep reservations about several aspects, though were not put off by the daunting task of organizing such an operation because, after all, we'd launched ACES with little more than sheer determination. Eventually, we parked the idea for further thought and the reality of having to make a living intruded.
But we haven't completey given up, though serious obstacles come to mind:
- Technological issues could be severe. As someone who worked from both a newsroom and home office for many years and dealt with major changes in editing systems on both production and delivery ends, I can tell you that no one format--say, using MS Word--would work for everyone. Trying to make stories appear in the right format could be excruciatingly complex and frustrating and sometimes simply never work.
- A combine/agency assumes that publications, print or online, are interested in quality work. We see evidence running in both directions. As a marketing device, we discussed taking on a web site that clearly needed help and gently prodding them to hire us through repeated editing reviews of their work. Quite a number of sites, both traditional journalism and others, could benefit from this, though they might not be receptive for some time, if ever. But if you see what passes for reporting at some of these sites where story churn is king, you know simultaneously that your services are needed but, appparently, not wanted.
- Our combine editors would work cheap but not as cheap as those in India. If you haven't explored the freelance market, especially those run by services that invite bids from around the world, you're in for a shock. People are offering to work for literally $1 an hour, and that's your competition. You can find work that pays better, certainly but it is often rooted in some connection or a local company with a short-term need. In in the rich days, when newspapers were practically printing money, too many didn't want to spend on finding ways to improve quality, such as staff training. So that means we'd have to pitch primarily on financial grounds. And that means:
- Contributing to further staff cutbacks. If our services were accepted and led to several others losing their jobs, the result would be counterproductive. Do we want to be responsible for costing someone a job with benefits, even if we could offer that individual freelance work? I don't think so. Others may disagree but this would be a deal breaker for me. And I see no way to enforce an agreement with a publisher who initially agreed that no jobs would be lost if he signed with such an agency.
Those are the primary negatives I see to such an editing combine. I don't think that such an organization is out of the question but I'm not sure it would be so different from companies that already exist to offer freelance editing. The major differences would be, I suppose, that it would be populated primarily by journalists, and be available for daily, rather than more long term, assignments.
There are individual freelance jobs out there and, to repeat myself, I like the idea of engaging a web site and offering services. Too many, however, take the publish-first approach and, in fact, pride themselves in speed over accuracy, quite literally telling writers to skip the editing and legal checks in favor of posting. But perhaps we could focus on the sites that are a bit more thoughtful.
In recent weeks, I've been suggesting to people that should more newspapers continue to fold, and more editors be thrown out of work, that perhaps we could at least apply our values to the web. I simply do not believe that everything we learned to do in our careers will prove to be of no value in the coming years. It appears that we will have to find ways to put them to work, to preserve and use what we know.
To get rather hyperbolic, I find editors facing a kind of Dark Ages. In "How the Irish Saved Civilization," the Irish monks are credited with saving classical works from marauding Germanic tribes, transcribing and preserving the works for later generations. We, too, can put our values and knowledge to work, rather than just fading away, if we figure out the right approach, jettison the mourning for the way things used to be, and step forward with new ideas. There is, after all, no newspaper copy editor I know whose job hasn't undergone changes thanks to new technology, the arrival of the internet and new publication demands, so it's not as if we haven't experienced change before.
So, congratulations, Michael, for starting the conversation again. Anyone else?
Labels:
ACES,
copy editors,
John McIntyre,
Michael Bullwinkle,
technology
Tuesday, December 1, 2009
Another Use for Books
Laurie Hertzel, books editor at the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, is running an office book sale for the next few days. All proceeds go to the ACES scholarship fund. Thank you, Laurie! Great way to use leftover books.
Labels:
ACES,
books,
copy editing scholarships,
funds,
Laurie Hertzel,
Star-Tribune
Friday, November 6, 2009
Welcome Scholarship Donations
Very happy to report that a certain book editor at a large paper in the Midwest has agreed to donate the proceeds of her next newsroom book sale to support ACES scholarships. She, as do a handful of others, offers the newspaper staff cut-rate prices of books sent her for review, and proceeds go to a nonprofit/charity. This time, it's for ACES. (I'm holding off naming her and the paper until I can clear it with her.) Note that the deadline for applying for scholarships is rapidly approaching. Students, take your best shot.
Labels:
ACES,
ACES Education Fund,
books,
scholarships
Sunday, May 3, 2009
Congrats, ACES
As mentioned on Facebook, I'm completely wowed by how well the American Copy Editors Society has done this year at its national conference: extended memberships for laid-off members, awarded the Robinson and Glamann prizes to two pros, handed out scholarships and headline prizes, and above all, retained some othe older, popular workshops while adding fresh new material and presenters to the lineup. Under the circumstances we're all facing, that's a remarkable performance. Kudos to all--way to go, Deirdre, Chris, and the entire team.
Labels:
ACES,
Chris Wienandt,
Deirdre Edgar,
Hank Glamann
Thursday, April 30, 2009
Scholarship Winners
Very happy to see this year's ACES scholarship winners.
Tuesday, April 28, 2009
ACES Fights the Good Fight
I'd been hoping to sneak off to the ACES conference this week, but alas, family schedule complications got in the way, again. Not that I regret the family stuff, at all, but I really do miss ACES.
But the organization is valiantly carrying on, even as some other organizations have had to cancel their annual meetings, and ACES' leadership deserves a lot of credit for doing so. As newspaper jobs and spare money disappear, there are dwindling opportunities for professional training, so good for ACES.
Among the registrants is student Emily Ingram, who will be working as a copy-editing intern at the Atlanta Journal-Constitution this summer, and who will be blogging for the ACES website. Emily seems to have a multimedia approach and I'm looking forward to reading what she and others have to say about the conference, and to working with Emily in other capacities in the future.
Good luck to all--Chris, Deirdre, Daniel, Anne, Bill, Neil, et al.
But the organization is valiantly carrying on, even as some other organizations have had to cancel their annual meetings, and ACES' leadership deserves a lot of credit for doing so. As newspaper jobs and spare money disappear, there are dwindling opportunities for professional training, so good for ACES.
Among the registrants is student Emily Ingram, who will be working as a copy-editing intern at the Atlanta Journal-Constitution this summer, and who will be blogging for the ACES website. Emily seems to have a multimedia approach and I'm looking forward to reading what she and others have to say about the conference, and to working with Emily in other capacities in the future.
Good luck to all--Chris, Deirdre, Daniel, Anne, Bill, Neil, et al.
Friday, March 13, 2009
Open Your Mind
After spending a day at a news literacy conference at Stony Brook University (more about that later), and expecting to spend a couple of days at the College Media Advisers convention in the next few days, I want to take the opportunity to encourage all, especially those feeling beaten down by the realities of the news business, to spend some time on your craft.
Get thee to a journalism conference. Try a Poynter webinar, go to a college journalism convention: do something. There's a lot going on out there. Sometimes you have to connect with people who have been in the same circumstances and survived, perhaps moved on. Either way, they've got something you can learn. And talking about your craft can be energizing.
If you're staying put in newspapers, check out the ACES conference, which has always had training opportunities that go well beyond night news desk needs at the daily fishwrap.
Get thee to a journalism conference. Try a Poynter webinar, go to a college journalism convention: do something. There's a lot going on out there. Sometimes you have to connect with people who have been in the same circumstances and survived, perhaps moved on. Either way, they've got something you can learn. And talking about your craft can be energizing.
If you're staying put in newspapers, check out the ACES conference, which has always had training opportunities that go well beyond night news desk needs at the daily fishwrap.
Labels:
ACES,
conferences,
educate,
journalism training,
Stony Brook,
training
Tuesday, December 23, 2008
On the Job Trail
I'm working on a post about transferring newspaper skills to other media but in the meantime, want to recommend Lindsey Pollak's advice column. While aimed at college students on the verge of entering the job market, it's got a lot of good information for any and all job seekers. I heartily recommend it, especially the part about joining professional organizations and updating your resume. If you've spent your career in newspapers and your resume is mostly a recitation of your work history, change it! I ran into this issue myself a few months ago while talking to a recruiter who held my resume up with the tips of two fingers and reasonably politely asked me if I had a resume. Clearly it wasn't what she wanted.
I'll have the other post soon, I hope.
I'll have the other post soon, I hope.
Labels:
ABC On Campus,
ACES,
job advice,
Lindsey Pollak
Saturday, July 5, 2008
Taking Action, Speaking Up
This may help or not but at least it's an effort.
I got interrupted for a moment. What I was about to say was that I wish more working copy editors would blog about their experiences, make the argument for their worth and, not incidentally, get involved in what is happening to news publications and their jobs and their craft. Passivity is killing us. I'm not saying we can save traditional copy desks or even if we should. But there are too many voices, some smarter than others, often belonging to writers or tech-heads, kissing off our careers or denouncing us.
And I'm not referring to professors, who tend to take a longer view than we might because they're teaching the next generation or because that's just who they are.
Part of what is disturbing copy editors is the suddenness with which job loss has arrived at their doorstep. I know you can argue that the news business has failed because it ignored the Internet for too long or stuck to the wrong business model. But as recently as a few months ago, newspapers were still hiring copy editors even as they shed other jobs.
The loss of jobs has as much to do with corporate takeovers, top-level decisionmaking and a rotten economy as it does with whether our craft has any value.
I get a Google alert on several words, including on variations of copy editor and there's a rather surprising number of tech-focused people who think we have no value, that editing can just as easily be done after the posting or see as as a layer of cost or , worst, have an axe to grind with editors and use their blogs to make their point. It is long past the point where copy editors speak up, where members of ACES confront some of these issues and maybe, just maybe, save the craft, if not the job. I'd say we owe that to readers, first, and to our fellow editors, if not to our industry.
I continue to be surprised at how the same four or five people get quoted on the topic of editing, particularly those who have no interest in--and in fact, clearly would benefit from--editing, and those who confuse blogging with the reporting, editing and posting of news stories.
There's a difference between, say, a political blog that is happening in relatively real time where something is reported, the site goes and gets response, does some digging and comes up with more material and updates its information as it goes along, and a newspaper web site that reports on a car accident or a town board meeting. The political site is reporting on or even participating in the to-and-fro, something interesting in its own right. The news site telling us about whether our school budget is going to raise my taxes is an entirely different matter--I don't want to have to go back and read it six times to find out if the facts were wrong, been updated or has more quotes.
Bloggers tend to hear from other bloggers and so convince themselves that there are millions of people out there who have nothing else to do but monitor web sites all day long. If you're involved in your community in any way, you know there are scads of people who read the web only erratically and don't want to go back and read, let's say, the car crash story five times while the newspaper attempts to edit the story and get the facts right.
I got interrupted for a moment. What I was about to say was that I wish more working copy editors would blog about their experiences, make the argument for their worth and, not incidentally, get involved in what is happening to news publications and their jobs and their craft. Passivity is killing us. I'm not saying we can save traditional copy desks or even if we should. But there are too many voices, some smarter than others, often belonging to writers or tech-heads, kissing off our careers or denouncing us.
And I'm not referring to professors, who tend to take a longer view than we might because they're teaching the next generation or because that's just who they are.
Part of what is disturbing copy editors is the suddenness with which job loss has arrived at their doorstep. I know you can argue that the news business has failed because it ignored the Internet for too long or stuck to the wrong business model. But as recently as a few months ago, newspapers were still hiring copy editors even as they shed other jobs.
The loss of jobs has as much to do with corporate takeovers, top-level decisionmaking and a rotten economy as it does with whether our craft has any value.
I get a Google alert on several words, including on variations of copy editor and there's a rather surprising number of tech-focused people who think we have no value, that editing can just as easily be done after the posting or see as as a layer of cost or , worst, have an axe to grind with editors and use their blogs to make their point. It is long past the point where copy editors speak up, where members of ACES confront some of these issues and maybe, just maybe, save the craft, if not the job. I'd say we owe that to readers, first, and to our fellow editors, if not to our industry.
I continue to be surprised at how the same four or five people get quoted on the topic of editing, particularly those who have no interest in--and in fact, clearly would benefit from--editing, and those who confuse blogging with the reporting, editing and posting of news stories.
There's a difference between, say, a political blog that is happening in relatively real time where something is reported, the site goes and gets response, does some digging and comes up with more material and updates its information as it goes along, and a newspaper web site that reports on a car accident or a town board meeting. The political site is reporting on or even participating in the to-and-fro, something interesting in its own right. The news site telling us about whether our school budget is going to raise my taxes is an entirely different matter--I don't want to have to go back and read it six times to find out if the facts were wrong, been updated or has more quotes.
Bloggers tend to hear from other bloggers and so convince themselves that there are millions of people out there who have nothing else to do but monitor web sites all day long. If you're involved in your community in any way, you know there are scads of people who read the web only erratically and don't want to go back and read, let's say, the car crash story five times while the newspaper attempts to edit the story and get the facts right.
Labels:
ACES,
bloggers,
copy editors,
editing,
newspapers,
pray
Thursday, June 26, 2008
Site Takes
Excellent. Why Editing Matters has taken off and has some good entries. It is important to note that the site is not designed to slam anyone but point out what it is copy editors do.
Tuesday, June 24, 2008
UPDATE More on the Copy-Editing Column
Time to cowboy up, people. I'm collecting examples of why we're needed. Others welcome to join in.
Several people responded to the Lawrence Downes' piece about the future of copy editing with a letter to The New York Times.
The ACES board also wrote.
But Brayden Simms writes about losing his new copy-editing job at the Miami Herald and says the work has been outsourced to India.
In the past, copy editors were often exempt or less affected by buyouts than were reporters. It appears those days are over, especially if this kind of thinking is what drives executives with no newspaper background to make the decisions they're making.
UPDATE: And then there's this.
An Indian company will take over copy editing duties for some stories published in The Orange County Register and will handle page layout for a community newspaper at the company that owns the Pulitzer Prize-winning daily, the newspaper confirmed Tuesday.
Orange County Register Communications Inc. will begin a one-month trial with Mindworks Global Media at the end of June, said John Fabris, a deputy editor at the Register.
Editors at Mindworks will work five shifts a week for one month, performing layout for the community paper and editing some stories in the flagship Register, Fabris said. Staffing at the company will not be affected, he said.
Saturday, April 12, 2008
Yay, Hank!!!!!

I am so sorry to have missed this. Next year in
First Glamann Award to Dow Jones Fund
Keynote speaker Ed Trayes accepts award named after ACES co-founder
By Neil Holdway, ACES treasurer | Posted: 10:47 PM 4/11
A new award honoring ACES co-founder Hank Glamann was given to the Dow Jones Newspaper Fund for its 50 years of supporting journalism and editing.
The ACES board decided months ago to create a new award recognizing people or organizations who have contributed so much to ACES and copy editing, and it decided to name it after Hank Glamann, an ACES co-founder and former longtime board member. And the board kept it secret from Hank until Friday night, when the first Glamann Award was given to the Dow Jones Newspaper Fund in its 50th-anniversary year.
The presentation of the award followed the Friday-night keynote speech by Edward Trayes, co-founder and director of the Dow Jones Newspaper Fund Editing and Minority Intern Program (hmmm, didn’t we arrange that *conveniently*). Trayes had just spoken on the power of copy editors and their enduring presence, and future, no matter how the industry changes. He later accepted the award on behalf of the fund.
And congrats, too, to Adam Smith for this award.
Wednesday, February 20, 2008
About Those Job Fairs UPDATE
A number of updates and changes..
While I've been trying to fend off pneumonia or bronchitis or some combination of the two, several excellent bloggers have been diligently deconstructing Alan D. Mutter's question, "Can Newspapers Afford Editors?"
For the moment, let us set aside the question of whether newspapers are really drowning in red ink or simply not measuring up to Wall Street's ridiculous expectations even though, to my mind, that is the essential question.
In defense of editors, we have had the quality argument (if you've spent more than an hour on the copy desk, you know that Star Reporter isn't necessarily Star Writer or even fully equipped to provide all of the basic elements of a story). And we've had arguments over internet vs. print standards, the writing-is-everything argument and so on. But Doug Fisher lays out an argument that is well worth reading and provides lots of links to other equally thoughtful blogs that further explore the matter. All points are worth discussion.
I just want to address one point that Doug raises, while saying he's partially right. But since it has to do with the early days of ACES, I want to set down the facts before an incomplete account becomes part of the record. It's also important to separate past from future and make clear that I'm primarily addressing statements about the group's early days, though I agree with what Doug says about the future. I also feel, after reading some further discussion tonight, that I've stepped into some previously invisible debate. Perhaps I'm wrong.
Doug writes about ACES:
The dynamic may be glimpsed in the reason it does not have a job fair at its annual meetings -- it implicitly, if not explicitly, has promised not to do that for fear that newspaper managers will not let copy editors come because of the concern they could be lured away. I understand entirely how this came about, but if it is going to be a truly effective organization, it's going to have to reconsider the changing times and the "please, master, may I have some more" orientation.
Here are the facts: As we were establishing ACES, we did indeed choose not to have a job fair and one--but only one--reason was a very clear message from the people funding the startup that having a job fair would keep some companies from sending employees or even allowing them the time off to attend. That was reality. Having been a recruiter and having listened to infuriated editors who had covered the costs of sending people to other conventions, only to have them find jobs and quit, I knew that ACES wouldn't get off the ground if we were seen as simply a hunting ground for recruiters. We had recruiters salivating at the chance to find copy editors. We heard stories about people having to pledge not to job hunt if the papers allowed them to go. (And by the way, many copy desk people attended on their own dime, unlike other conventions.) We made semi-sarcastic jokes about it--if you're so worried about your employees getting out the door that you're going to try to keep them locked in, maybe you're doing something wrong. We also knew that copy editors didn't need ACES to find a job.
But, and this is extremely important, a bigger factor in that decision had to do with what we were trying to accomplish. A job fair has a way of becoming the focus for too many people attending conventions. We were very determined to make the ACES conference--and we insisted on calling it a conference to differentiate ourselves from other groups' conventions--about serious skills training and journalism topics. That educational mission was a reason that, time after time, senior editors who came to our conferences marveled at how people were in workshops, not standing around in the hallways chatting up recruiters but rather focused on improving their skills. That, along with not devoting a lot of energy to promoting social events, set the tone of the conference, in my opinion. A recruiter who attended an early ACES conference tells an amusing story about sitting in the bar with another recruiter, waiting for people to turn up at his elbow and start pitching themselves, the way they would at other newspaper conventions. Instead, a bunch of copy editors walked in, introduced themselves to the recruiters, ordered drinks and went off to a separate table, completely uninterested in sucking up to the recruiters. Copy editors were there to improve themselves.
We knew that recruiters would attend and if people wanted to find one, they could. We also knew that the market was such that people didn't need job fairs to find work. It would most likely find them. But recruiting could not and would not be a primary piece of the conference.
I cannot speak to what ACES can do now or should have done since I haven't, for family reasons, participated in the organization, beyond the educational fund, for a long time. Certainly in the decade since the group got going, the industry has changed radically. And there's an open question in my mind as to whether all the journalism organizations, who best represent the people who are getting clobbered by the cutbacks and overall changes, ought to be working together to find some solutions.
But I'm not sure what a job fair has to do with the state of the business now or what it is a fair can do to help anysingle organization fix the current situation we confront now.
Now I'm off to fight the aforementioned illness that is sapping my energy this week (and the need to prepare for little Ms. Anna's 15th birthday Friday).
Further update: Doug came by and raised another point; I responded on his blog and have altered the original penultimate graf because I hadn't written what I'd intended. Also, I want to emphasize again that the second part of the reasoning on the job fair was the more significant.
It would certainly be interesting to see what impact adding a job fair would have an ACES conferences. I don't know if what corporate money remains would dry up or more registration money would come in because more copy editors would attend because of the job fair. There has always been a certain moral component to corporate funding of minority journalism conventions that ACES could not claim. And I do believe the character, thrust and tone of the conference would change. But it is for current ACES leadership to discuss this; I'm just trying to set the historical record straight before people's partial understanding become confused with fact.
While I've been trying to fend off pneumonia or bronchitis or some combination of the two, several excellent bloggers have been diligently deconstructing Alan D. Mutter's question, "Can Newspapers Afford Editors?"
For the moment, let us set aside the question of whether newspapers are really drowning in red ink or simply not measuring up to Wall Street's ridiculous expectations even though, to my mind, that is the essential question.
In defense of editors, we have had the quality argument (if you've spent more than an hour on the copy desk, you know that Star Reporter isn't necessarily Star Writer or even fully equipped to provide all of the basic elements of a story). And we've had arguments over internet vs. print standards, the writing-is-everything argument and so on. But Doug Fisher lays out an argument that is well worth reading and provides lots of links to other equally thoughtful blogs that further explore the matter. All points are worth discussion.
I just want to address one point that Doug raises, while saying he's partially right. But since it has to do with the early days of ACES, I want to set down the facts before an incomplete account becomes part of the record. It's also important to separate past from future and make clear that I'm primarily addressing statements about the group's early days, though I agree with what Doug says about the future. I also feel, after reading some further discussion tonight, that I've stepped into some previously invisible debate. Perhaps I'm wrong.
Doug writes about ACES:
The dynamic may be glimpsed in the reason it does not have a job fair at its annual meetings -- it implicitly, if not explicitly, has promised not to do that for fear that newspaper managers will not let copy editors come because of the concern they could be lured away. I understand entirely how this came about, but if it is going to be a truly effective organization, it's going to have to reconsider the changing times and the "please, master, may I have some more" orientation.
Here are the facts: As we were establishing ACES, we did indeed choose not to have a job fair and one--but only one--reason was a very clear message from the people funding the startup that having a job fair would keep some companies from sending employees or even allowing them the time off to attend. That was reality. Having been a recruiter and having listened to infuriated editors who had covered the costs of sending people to other conventions, only to have them find jobs and quit, I knew that ACES wouldn't get off the ground if we were seen as simply a hunting ground for recruiters. We had recruiters salivating at the chance to find copy editors. We heard stories about people having to pledge not to job hunt if the papers allowed them to go. (And by the way, many copy desk people attended on their own dime, unlike other conventions.) We made semi-sarcastic jokes about it--if you're so worried about your employees getting out the door that you're going to try to keep them locked in, maybe you're doing something wrong. We also knew that copy editors didn't need ACES to find a job.
But, and this is extremely important, a bigger factor in that decision had to do with what we were trying to accomplish. A job fair has a way of becoming the focus for too many people attending conventions. We were very determined to make the ACES conference--and we insisted on calling it a conference to differentiate ourselves from other groups' conventions--about serious skills training and journalism topics. That educational mission was a reason that, time after time, senior editors who came to our conferences marveled at how people were in workshops, not standing around in the hallways chatting up recruiters but rather focused on improving their skills. That, along with not devoting a lot of energy to promoting social events, set the tone of the conference, in my opinion. A recruiter who attended an early ACES conference tells an amusing story about sitting in the bar with another recruiter, waiting for people to turn up at his elbow and start pitching themselves, the way they would at other newspaper conventions. Instead, a bunch of copy editors walked in, introduced themselves to the recruiters, ordered drinks and went off to a separate table, completely uninterested in sucking up to the recruiters. Copy editors were there to improve themselves.
We knew that recruiters would attend and if people wanted to find one, they could. We also knew that the market was such that people didn't need job fairs to find work. It would most likely find them. But recruiting could not and would not be a primary piece of the conference.
I cannot speak to what ACES can do now or should have done since I haven't, for family reasons, participated in the organization, beyond the educational fund, for a long time. Certainly in the decade since the group got going, the industry has changed radically. And there's an open question in my mind as to whether all the journalism organizations, who best represent the people who are getting clobbered by the cutbacks and overall changes, ought to be working together to find some solutions.
But I'm not sure what a job fair has to do with the state of the business now or what it is a fair can do to help any
Now I'm off to fight the aforementioned illness that is sapping my energy this week (and the need to prepare for little Ms. Anna's 15th birthday Friday).
Further update: Doug came by and raised another point; I responded on his blog and have altered the original penultimate graf because I hadn't written what I'd intended. Also, I want to emphasize again that the second part of the reasoning on the job fair was the more significant.
It would certainly be interesting to see what impact adding a job fair would have an ACES conferences. I don't know if what corporate money remains would dry up or more registration money would come in because more copy editors would attend because of the job fair. There has always been a certain moral component to corporate funding of minority journalism conventions that ACES could not claim. And I do believe the character, thrust and tone of the conference would change. But it is for current ACES leadership to discuss this; I'm just trying to set the historical record straight before people's partial understanding become confused with fact.
Thursday, February 7, 2008
Preferential Editing
I certainly have my favorite words: plethora, for example, just makes me smile. And there are words I dislike, though I'm not as obsessed with them as,say,the gang who hates the word "moist." But there's a discussion going on over at the ACES board that I find a little perturbing. John McIntyre first noted it.
What bothers me is this: there's room for discussion of words we hate, personally, and then there's arbitrarily removing them. The latter is called preferential editing and it's inappropriate. Editors chiming in on the original posting correctly identify a lot of trite, useless or cop-talk kinds of words they want to eliminate. They are right. I'd wonder about the editors if they didn't get rid of the words.
But here's what started the conversation:
What bothers me is this: there's room for discussion of words we hate, personally, and then there's arbitrarily removing them. The latter is called preferential editing and it's inappropriate. Editors chiming in on the original posting correctly identify a lot of trite, useless or cop-talk kinds of words they want to eliminate. They are right. I'd wonder about the editors if they didn't get rid of the words.
But here's what started the conversation:
I loathe the word "gubenatorial" (sic) and rewrite around it every time I see it.
Do you have any words like that ... like fingernails on a chalkboard for you?
Sunday, December 16, 2007
The Young Family
ACES and John McIntyre
write about the tragic deaths of Abigail Young and Matthew Young. Their father, Steve, is a deputy copy chief at the Baltimore Sun.
Donations can be made to the Young Family Fund and mailed to this address:
The Baltimore Sun
c/o Young Family Fund
501 N. Calvert Street
Baltimore, MD 21278-0001
Attn: Cashier's Office
write about the tragic deaths of Abigail Young and Matthew Young. Their father, Steve, is a deputy copy chief at the Baltimore Sun.
Donations can be made to the Young Family Fund and mailed to this address:
The Baltimore Sun
c/o Young Family Fund
501 N. Calvert Street
Baltimore, MD 21278-0001
Attn: Cashier's Office
Labels:
Abigail Young,
ACES,
Baltimore Sun,
John McIntyre,
Matthew Young
Sunday, November 4, 2007
Following the Paper Trail
Here’s another group opposed to the idea of eliminating, reducing the role of or otherwise disparaging copy editors.
Media Employers Who Downgrade Editing Will Destroy Fabric of Ethical Journalism Warns IFJ
Publishers who think unedited journalism will help them out of the crisis overwhelming the newspaper industry in parts of the industrialised world are in danger of destroying the scope for ethical journalism, warns the International Federation of Journalists (IFJ) today on the eve of widespread protests across Europe over falling social and professional standards in media.Voices have been raised against this idea, of course, among them:
Doug Fisher
John McIntyre
Forrest Brown
And, of course, ACES.
It strikes me that we in the newsrooms who have been raising this issue may well lose because it is obvious that the people proposing these ideas are driven by fear, which trumps everything else. We’ve succeeded primarily in laying out a paper trail as a bit of history and for the future.
Media Employers Who Downgrade Editing Will Destroy Fabric of Ethical Journalism Warns IFJ
Publishers who think unedited journalism will help them out of the crisis overwhelming the newspaper industry in parts of the industrialised world are in danger of destroying the scope for ethical journalism, warns the International Federation of Journalists (IFJ) today on the eve of widespread protests across Europe over falling social and professional standards in media.Voices have been raised against this idea, of course, among them:
Doug Fisher
John McIntyre
Forrest Brown
And, of course, ACES.
It strikes me that we in the newsrooms who have been raising this issue may well lose because it is obvious that the people proposing these ideas are driven by fear, which trumps everything else. We’ve succeeded primarily in laying out a paper trail as a bit of history and for the future.
Wednesday, August 29, 2007
Editing Scholarships Available

Please share this information with journalism professors, students or other interested parties. Note the Oct.15 deadline.
Would $2,500 help?
The ACES Education Fund, an affiliate of the American Copy Editors Society, is offering scholarships to juniors, seniors and grad students who aspire to careers in copy editing. Also eligible are 2007 graduates who will take full-time copy editing jobs or internships.
Waste no time!
Applications and supporting materials must be
postmarked by Oct. 15, 2007
Get the details!
Application forms and full details are available at:
www.copydesk.org/scholarships.htm
Apply today!
Subscribe to:
Posts (Atom)
